Beth Sarim

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  We’re getting out.

  by MissDaSilva in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  been in for 20 plus years but decided to get out with my son.

  can’t do this anymore.

  never seen such hypocrisy and clickyness anywhere else.

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  Beth Sarim

  Its all about the interests of the GB of course whats first and foremost.

  The elite who never got the jab.
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  Beth Sarim

  I just don't know how hardcore JW will wrap their heads around such a mess of this if the gb disappear and WT crumbling
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  We’re getting out.

  by MissDaSilva in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  been in for 20 plus years but decided to get out with my son.

  can’t do this anymore.

  never seen such hypocrisy and clickyness anywhere else.

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  Beth Sarim

  MissDaSilva:

  You are to be commended for your bravery in this decision.

  And welcome to the forum!!
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  The Saddest Thing About Tony Morris's Removal

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've mentioned before how i've wondered how tony morris must have felt when he was sacked.

  yes, i know he's a rehensible human being who got served a healthy dose of karma, or, if you like, divine judgement.

  to go from having all there is to have within the world he lived in, to where he is now; that's a long fall.

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  Beth Sarim

  Tony has been given a lot more than when our Raymond Franz got kicked out.

  Perhaps Tony really knows where the skeletons are burried so to speak.

  And giving Tony this deal is to sweeten the deal to keep him quiet..

  In Ray Franz case,, there was no such sweet deal,, of course NOT!!
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  Beth Sarim

  "Added lunacy" is what these groups rely on.

  People cant develop critical thinking skills and have to have every waking moment spelled-out for them.

  Lunacy.
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  No Divine protection for Jehovah's Witnesses' gatherings. JW Death toll rises around the world.

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  growing up as a jw in the 1960s and 1970s, a common refrain from the yearbook, local elders and circuit overseers was how jws were protected at meetings, conventions, and in the field service by "the angels".

  experiences of "divine intervention" during service, ww2, in communist lands, and conventions were common.

  the internet and google are regularly debunking this myth in the 21st century.

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  Beth Sarim

  Its like those cracks grow and grow until they breach your entire belief system alll at once.
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  No Reporting of Time, Tithing is OK, Now WT Teaches a "Rapture" - What's Next?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  those who will be taken to heaven will first need to be “changed, in a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet.” therefore, while we do not use the term “rapture” here because of its wrong connotation, the remaining faithful anointed will be gathered together in an instant of time.

  - the watchtower—study edition | july 2015. ok so they refuse to use the word "rapture".

  kinda like they refuse to use the word church and clergy (except when it suits their purposes in court cases).

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  Beth Sarim

  Making it up as they go along.

  Ever since about the time of CT Russell.

  Maybe sooner.
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  We’re getting out.

  by MissDaSilva in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  been in for 20 plus years but decided to get out with my son.

  can’t do this anymore.

  never seen such hypocrisy and clickyness anywhere else.

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  Beth Sarim

  I think a lot of us in 1995,,had this WTF moment,,, with "this generation" issue.
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  The 'Tower has no Face

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just thinking about how the wt has evolved over the century of its existence.

  before the gb tricked knorr into making them the ones responsible for everything, the president at the time was very much the face of the society.

  after franz, it all became a bit nebulous as to who was in charge.. is the current situation more advantageous to the wt or less?.

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  Beth Sarim

  The Borg has the gb.

  Not just 1 leader,,, but the gb consists of 9 dudes in New York which demands praise & idolizing

  Where any one of these dudes goes,,,the rank and file ""ooooohs and ahhhhs"" worshipping them.
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  What's the org like now?

  by Leathercrop in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  even tho i've been expelled about 4 years now, i truly checked out around 2015. changes in the org i think we're just starting to get going.

  i remember the kingdom songs suddenly getting the taylor swift treatment aka pop music treatment.

  meetings were getting axed or meshed together or something.

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  Beth Sarim

  The Borgs business model is simply rebranding. Reinventing.